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AC Condenser?

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Anybody know anything about this condenser?
60-60980-N

Places that sell it list it as "high efficiency for R134a systems" but it doesn't say if it's a parallel flow one.
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Better give the supplier a call. Pics show a pallet-flow, but the caption says "sample". If you can get some pics of the actual part, I can send pics and dimensions of mine to compare.
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One owes me a call back and the other couldn't contact the manufacturer today.
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Unless it's truly a perfect bolt-on fit, like the one I have from Classic Auto Air, it's just as easy (and likely cheaper) to buy an $80 generic condenser. It actually looks like the one I have started out as one, with the appropriate mounts and fittings welded on.
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It WOULD be nice to find a source for more bolt-on ones. Big business strikes again.
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dwcains wrote:Unless it's truly a perfect bolt-on fit, like the one I have from Classic Auto Air, it's just as easy (and likely cheaper) to buy an $80 generic condenser. It actually looks like the one I have started out as one, with the appropriate mounts and fittings welded on.
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How did they adapt the fittings on your condenser? Universals usually have the fluid connections at the top and bottom on the passenger side. Do you have a pic by chance?
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Here's an old pic I have, but I can take some detailed pics when I have some time later.

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That looks just like mine.

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Did you get yours from Classic, or the company that made them for Classic?
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slofut wrote:
dwcains wrote:Unless it's truly a perfect bolt-on fit, like the one I have from Classic Auto Air, it's just as easy (and likely cheaper) to buy an $80 generic condenser. It actually looks like the one I have started out as one, with the appropriate mounts and fittings welded on.
DW,
How did they adapt the fittings on your condenser? Universals usually have the fluid connections at the top and bottom on the passenger side. Do you have a pic by chance?
There are hard lines welded onto the top and bottom ports on the PF condensor, to duplicate the configuration of the original serpentine comdensor:

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The core of the dondensor is approx. 22" x 16". It's very nicely fabricated and also duplicates the original brackets for mounting the fan to the condensor and the condensor to the car.
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Quit making us feel bad! :shock: Apparently they will never be reproduced.
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I'm sure Classic has some left in stock, just a question of spending $300 + shipping. I don't think it's that big a deal to use a generic, and at around $80 that leaves lots of cash for brackets and an aftermarket fan. Either way you'd need new hoses.
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I suspect you are correct. $130-160 for a fan and shroud, $20 for brackets. Specing out new hoses is the key.
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Or even a group buy on new hoses for universal condensers. We need a new group buy on compressor brackets too. I was out of the country and missed out.
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Dean
Thanks for the pics. Looks like they just modified a universal condenser. I wonder if we could talk them into just making adapter hard lines that screw on to the existing universal condenser fittings?
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I don't imagine Classic would be interested in that, as they'd rather sell you the $300 condensor, but a good A/C or hydraulic hose shop wouldn't have any difficulties. Might be easy to bring both the original condensor and the universal/generic to the shop, and have them use the original as a pattern.

You might also be able to piece together something with the various 90-degree and 45-degree fittings which are available.
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