AMETECH "ENGINE RESTORE"

horsetan · Post by **horsetan** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:29 pm

Anyone used this stuff before?

If you did, what happened

bfons · Post by **bfons** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:52 pm

I bought my 1990 525 with close to 200K miles. The PO advertisied it as "oil changed with synthetic and Restore every 3500 miles"

I have to say that for a car with 200K miles plus now, the compression is still there. I have never done a compression test but maybe I should as it has never had a top end rebuild.

I cannot say whether it was the Restore or not but I have continued to use it every other oil change.

horsetan · Post by **horsetan** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:32 pm

Interesting, thanks Brian.

I have someone in the oil supply industry here who is going to do a chemical analysis of the stuff and attempt to prove to me that it either does not work, or will do damage to my engine.....

Kaotiq635 · Post by **Kaotiq635** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:46 pm

I've always been skeptical of the claims made for these additives.

Known a few people in the oil industry over the years and they always argued that if there was a way to improve the quality of the product they make to give them an edge over the other manufacturers they would do it, particularly if they could do it and improve their margins at the same time.

I strongly suspect the oil companies have done serious analysis of these additives and they know what they are and what the effects of them are.

YMMV,
Iain.

bfons · Post by **bfons** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:35 am

horsetan wrote:Interesting, thanks Brian.

I have someone in the oil supply industry here who is going to do a chemical analysis of the stuff and attempt to prove to me that it either does not work, or will do damage to my engine.....

Please keep us posted. It's very thick and blue in color btw.

AnalogReigns · Post by **AnalogReigns** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:44 am

I use Restore religiously. On my old Acura it was the only thing that quieted the (typical) flaw of clattering lifters. No other thickener or additive did a thing. If you search on Acura threads you will see others with the same experience with this (one) product.

With my 231K BMW shark, I think it helps too. It's a metal emulsion (copper, silver, lead, I believe) not plastic as in Slick 50 and other additives. That and Castrol Syntech keeps her going, IMHO.

I had the valves adjusted a 3000 miles ago, and the comment of the technician was the car shows "excellent oil service," i.e. clean as a whistle inside.

With the cruise control set at 60 MPH, she gets over 30 mpg too.

The Sixer Kid · Post by **The Sixer Kid** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:52 am

30 mpg? damn i struggle to break 20 ( i know ive got a heavy right foot, but 30 mpg is pretty freakin amazing)

bfons · Post by **bfons** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:07 pm

horsetan wrote:Interesting, thanks Brian.

I have someone in the oil supply industry here who is going to do a chemical analysis of the stuff and attempt to prove to me that it either does not work, or will do damage to my engine.....

Ivan,

Any update on this. Inquiring minds want to know.

UKDaveJ · Post by **UKDaveJ** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:29 pm

Definitely!!!!!!

Come on Ivan 'oil' chap, 'spill' the beans.....

horsetan · Post by **horsetan** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:11 pm

I sent it off after the New Year, and the feckin' Royal Mail sent it back to me!

I'm sending it again tomorrow, this time omitting my return address in the hope that they'll get the idea of where it should be going

dm635 · Post by **dm635** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:36 am

AnalogReigns wrote:I use Restore religiously. On my old Acura it was the only thing that quieted the (typical) flaw of clattering lifters. No other thickener or additive did a thing. If you search on Acura threads you will see others with the same experience with this (one) product.

With my 231K BMW shark, I think it helps too. It's a metal emulsion (copper, silver, lead, I believe) not plastic as in Slick 50 and other additives. That and Castrol Syntech keeps her going, IMHO.

I had the valves adjusted a 3000 miles ago, and the comment of the technician was the car shows "excellent oil service," i.e. clean as a whistle inside.

With the cruise control set at 60 MPH, she gets over 30 mpg too.

not 6 related.this may be what my other car needs(960 volvo wagon),the lifters are notorious for noise.i don't like using additives,but if it works,i'll give it try.worried about clogging small passages,especially lifters.

GLTHEURO · Post by **GLTHEURO** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:22 pm

So is the consensus that this stuff is worth putting in your car? Will it damage it?

evergladesbob · Post by **evergladesbob** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:42 am

I have used Restore in all my older vehicles. It will not help new cars.
It works but takes about 40 to 60 miles before you can feel it. Check your RPMs The same speed can be acheived at lower revs. You can feel the power increase. I have noticed no long term effects except the motors seem happier.
DriveOn

dblrifle · Post by **dblrifle** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:20 am

After reading this thread I looked for and found some Restore. I put one can in my 85 635 last weekend. My engine has 98K showing but I believe it has about 150K as PO changed the cluster and speedo. I come to this conclusion from Carfax reported mileage. After 4 days and about 250 miles I can conclusivly say the RPM's required to maintain 60mph on level road is 200rpm lower. Engine is quieter but that's a subjective evaluation as is the feel that the motor spins up FREERER than before. The lower RPM is fact unless someone can give me an explanation. I found an absolutely straight flat 5 mile stretch of road and drove an indicated 60mph and did this both before and after adding Restore. RPM's were lower after. I will continue to use it at every oil change till I hear some other facts. I will report back after next oil change. I run straight 20w50 motor oil year round here in So. Arizona.

cecotto479 · Post by **cecotto479** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:44 am

dblrifle wrote:After reading this thread I looked for and found some Restore. I put one can in my 85 635 last weekend. My engine has 98K showing but I believe it has about 150K as PO changed the cluster and speedo. I come to this conclusion from Carfax reported mileage. After 4 days and about 250 miles I can conclusivly say the RPM's required to maintain 60mph on level road is 200rpm lower. Engine is quieter but that's a subjective evaluation as is the feel that the motor spins up FREERER than before. The lower RPM is fact unless someone can give me an explanation. I found an absolutely straight flat 5 mile stretch of road and drove an indicated 60mph and did this both before and after adding Restore. RPM's were lower after. I will continue to use it at every oil change till I hear some other facts. I will report back after next oil change. I run straight 20w50 motor oil year round here in So. Arizona.

I just don't understand this "engine speed lower at road same road speed" claim. I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't understand it. Is the relationship between engine speed and road speed not fixed and governed by the gearing?

GLTHEURO · Post by **GLTHEURO** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:57 am

Engine speed and road speed are directly related at all speeds. The rpm's are translated by the tranny, rear end and finally the size of the tires to translate to road speed.

BULLSHIT!!!!!

I do believe that this agent works well to restore some engine power though. I'll have to buy a can!

dblrifle · Post by **dblrifle** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:57 am

I am merely reporting what I have observed. As I said I don't understand it and if someone could explain it please do. Until then i will use it and see what happens with mileage. I just was intrigued by the posting and decided to try my own test unscientific as it may be those are MY observations.

GLTHEURO · Post by **GLTHEURO** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:28 pm

Sorry man. I was in a bad mood but you can't go the same speed at a lower rpm. It defies the mechanics of an automobile.

I do agree that this mixture made the car run much smoother though.

ghostinhere13 · Post by **ghostinhere13** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:33 pm

i have to agree with some of the posts on here. i poured one of the '6 cylinder cans' in my engine with my last oil change (because of this post, i might add) and i significantly noticed a difference in my car's performance. my engine was acting very tired and had a difficult time operating in the higher rpm range. it seems now, that it is a lot more willing to do 6 grand on the rpm tach than it was before. my car runs well all the time now, not just when it's cold. which used to be the only time it would squeal tires

i dont know anything about the lower rpms at same speed business, i havent noticed a change in that area. my engine however is much quieter, and accelerates faster. oh.. my engine has somewhere over 202,000 miles on it. the odometer stopped working before i purchased the car. and it was at 202 when i got ahold of it.

UKDaveJ · Post by **UKDaveJ** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:34 pm

This is quite intriguing!

Quieter because of a higher overall oil viscosity??

How more performance, what is the science behind it that can cause these benefits & also, what are the negatives??

GLTHEURO · Post by **GLTHEURO** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:05 pm

I believe that this product works by resoring the cylinder wall surface as well as the piston rings allowing for a better compression with less blow by. The material also allows the pistons to slide up and down more easily in the cylinders.

This is what I believe to be the case. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Brucey · Post by **Brucey** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:57 pm

that is what they claim.... thing is no-one has ever published independent scientific (lab style) tests for this stuff, if anyone knows any different please post a link or something, we all want to know....

cheers

UKDaveJ · Post by **UKDaveJ** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:03 pm

Brucey wrote:that is what they claim.... thing is no-one has ever published independent scientific (lab style) tests for this stuff, if anyone knows any different please post a link or something, we all want to know....

cheers

Fancy doing a scientific test Brucey?

Perhaps a few of us in the UK could do some less scientific testing as well?

Anyone up for it?

GLTHEURO · Post by **GLTHEURO** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:55 pm

I'm not in the UK, but I will do it. Tell me when.

Brucey · Post by **Brucey** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:24 pm

-seems there has already been lots of unscientific testing... if your engine is a bit poor (for an unknown reason) you put this stuff in, and it either does nothing, you think it does something, or it genuinely does something (assuming it doesn't actually do harm) and hey presto even if it is useless you will have some people who will say that it has done wonders (rightly or wrongly)....

This stuff might be wonderful for all I know, but until the testing gets out of the whole area of apochrypha and into the area of science I shall take any claims made for it with a pinch of salt. After all, there are people who swear blind they have been abducted by aliens, seen real little green men, etc etc etc and have yet to produce any real evidence; no-one much believes them but we are meant to believe equally unsubstantiated claims regarding something that could easily be properly and scientifically tested.....

makes you think, eh......

cheers

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Hmm, this is getting interesting!